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    Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

    Concept:

    1. To remain fully undetected from all current and future anti-cheats, we must remain external to the game. We are going a step further and becoming external to the computer itself, instead getting memory access through busses that provide Direct Memory Access (DMA) to the physical memory layout. Busses that provide that are FireWire, ExpressCard, Thunderbolt, PCI/PCI-E... so we will need a hardware device with a FPGA attached to do some processing work for us.
    2. Those busses allow direct access to the entire physical memory. To make our lives easier we will need to be able to translate physical memory addresses to virtual memory addresses. We will need to find the CR3 register to do this. CR3 is on each processor, and points to the page directory which points to page tables which reference physical memory addresses. We can walk through each table and find a signature for our game, let's say hl2.exe. You have two choices now.
    3a. Once we are at this point, we could do a couple things. If you wanted a total extern solution, we could just read the structures from the game, do processing on the FPGA, and output them through a DVI passthrough to overlay the game on-screen. We could output them to a secondary monitor or device. Aimbot could be achieved by doing USB HID emulation of a mouse to position the cursor above an enemy and fire, or as a triggerbot, etc.
    3b. Alternatively we have the ability for arbitrary code execution on both x86 and x86_64 processors. On x86_64, we also have the problem of PatchGuard, so direct SSDT and IDT patches are out of question, so we would want to patch something that's not checked by PatchGuard. (see "A Catalog of Windows Local Kernel-mode Backdoor Techniques" by skape and Skywing). This is not exactly the fully external as described above, and you will want to exercise caution, as modifying the physical memory is probably not advisable due to anti-cheats detecting your code or memory modifications.

    Shortfalls: Hypervisor (this would be extremely limiting to the user), RAM encryption

    References:
    Aumaitre, D., & Devine, C. (2010, July). Subverting windows 7 x64 kernel with dma attacks. Presentation delivered at Hitb2010 amsterdam. Retrieved from http://esec-lab.sogeti.com/dotclear/...dmaattacks.pdf
    Hoglung, G., & Butler, J. (2006). Rootkits: Subverting the windows kernel. Upper Saddle River, NJ: Addison-Wesley.
    Skywing & skape (2007). A catalog of windows local kernel-mode backdoor techniques. Uninformed, 8, Retrieved from http://uninformed.org/?v=8&a=2&t=pdf

    #2
    Re: Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

    Who would do that... I mean WHO would do that... maybe that thingy with mouse... but just that... :P
    Originally posted by God:
    Fuck this shit. I need a new planet...
    This is our moment.
    We have never been stronger.
    People are frightened yes, but
    If we show them the way
    They will rise behind us.

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      #3
      Re: Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

      Originally posted by eragon sk View Post
      Who would do that... I mean WHO would do that... maybe that thingy with mouse... but just that... :P
      Anybody who wants to cheat without concern.

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        #4
        Re: Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

        Nice thread, maybe I will try this in a few years :P

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          #5
          Re: Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

          Originally posted by redbulli View Post
          Nice thread, maybe I will try this in a few years :P
          No you won't.

          On a related note, if you have an ethernet card you could probably overwrite the firmware. Although I think most probably I would go for a router based hack rather than an ethernet based hack.

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            #6
            Re: Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

            Originally posted by redbulli View Post
            Nice thread, maybe I will try this in a few years :P
            No you won't.

            Although I think most probably I would go for a router based hack rather than an ethernet based hack. Losing DMA is not a big worry if you have full documentation of packet scheme anyway.

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              #7
              Re: Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

              dubbel post
              ok bai

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                #8
                Re: Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

                Originally posted by lolimsoasd View Post
                dubbel post
                Actually they only have the same beginnings :)
                Move on

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                  #9
                  Re: Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

                  Originally posted by lolimsoasd View Post
                  dubbel post
                  dubya post

                  IN DIS MURIKA

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                    #10
                    Re: Making Your Cheat Undetected From ALL Current and Future Anti-Cheats

                    Originally posted by lolimsoasd View Post
                    dubbel post
                    Double penetr.... posts have happened pretty frequently here lately, it's some weirdass lag-spike that causes them, probably Seth DDOS.
                    lolmaoman: Germans are born with a lifetime x22 login engraved into their birth certificates. True story.
                    I DONT HAVE TEAMVIEWER AND IM NOT GOING TO GIVE ANY 24/7 ONLINE SUPPORT VIA STEAM, XFIRE OR OTHER IM PROGRAMS SO DONT BOTHER ASKING. THANKS.

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