Help Website Coding

[Drev]

Hello,
Whats the easier way to make a website for my CS 1.6 Project?
What program do you suggest me to use i dont know alot of coding.

[lolimsoasd]

Re: Help Website Coding

Hello,
Whats the easier way to make a website for my CS 1.6 Project?
What program do you suggest me to use i dont know alot of coding.

first learn html + CSS then learn some PHP<-->MySQL and that's it

[UnstucK]

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yup, may need some javascript aswell, but most important are php/html/css

[CR4SH]

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Or, if u want to make website without any knowledge, use a CMS like Wordpress or Joomla, it's the easiest way.
But indeed, php/html/css is better for a professional work

[lolimsoasd]

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yup, may need some javascript aswell, but most important are php/html/css

no javascript = best security (no IP leaks)
but yeah that's for anonymity like sites on the TOR network. So you can use javascript ofc :D

[b2k5]

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no javascript = best security (no IP leaks)
but yeah that's for anonymity like sites on the TOR network. So you can use javascript ofc :D

bullshit, the bigger security risk here is using php.

is suggest you do not even start reading up on php and put all the effort into learning javascript.

a. knowledge of javascript allows you to create rich user interfaces and other things in the browser
b. knowing javascript enables you to use nodejs, which is way better than php.

all this is ofcourse only if you are serious about your project, whatever it might be.

[UnstucK]

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bullshit, the bigger security risk here is using php.

is suggest you do not even start reading up on php and put all the effort into learning javascript.

a. knowledge of javascript allows you to create rich user interfaces and other things in the browser
b. knowing javascript enables you to use nodejs, which is way better than php.

all this is ofcourse only if you are serious about your project, whatever it might be.

O_O

php is not a risk at all, it's just that you need to avoid being drunk while coding it ^^

I do not liek javascript, it does help for a lot of things but it does not replace php at all & is not the most important thing if you need to create a dynamic website :(

[Guest]

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Well in PHP the most important rule is: Never trust the user, never ever.

[b2k5]

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O_O

php is not a risk at all, it's just that you need to avoid being drunk while coding it ^^

I do not liek javascript, it does help for a lot of things but it does not replace php at all & is not the most important thing if you need to create a dynamic website :(

it doesnt replace php, it supersedes it.

also i didnt say php is risky, i said using it is risky because ppl that use php tend to be lazy.
php has been superseded a long time ago by other things, and it should not be used anymore.

for instance there is rails (ruby), grails (groovy), jsf (java), asp (c#, c++, vb).
nodejs is the easiest thing tho for getting quick results.
a. because it's javascript, which you already know from the browser
b. it has very powerful frameworks already, super active open source community
c. it's also highly scalable, but i doubt the op needs that

Well in PHP the most important rule is: Never trust the user, never ever.

that pretty much applies to everything running serverside relying on user input.

[lolimsoasd]

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bullshit, the bigger security risk here is using php.

is suggest you do not even start reading up on php and put all the effort into learning javascript.

... WHEN talking about noob coding stuff

If he doesn't learn PHP, what kind of site could he make? HTML stuff with forms and tables. But no PHP code and MySQL connection. no sense at all

[b2k5]

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... WHEN talking about noob coding stuff

If he doesn't learn PHP, what kind of site could he make? HTML stuff with forms and tables. But no PHP code and MySQL connection. no sense at all

like i said be4, PHP is not the one and only thing around. you can connect to a mysql with nodejs just as easily, no, actually even easier.

did he even say he needed a MySQL?

[UnstucK]

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like i said be4, PHP is not the one and only thing around. you can connect to a mysql with nodejs just as easily, no, actually even easier.

did he even say he needed a MySQL?

Well making a website today, sticking to static website (basic html) is kinda ... rare ^^

I guess that 90% of new websites are dynamic, so they need SQL, and my very own opinion is that sql connection is, anyway, way easier in php cuz you need what ... server,db,login, and do the connection, kinda easy to do it ^^

Anyway you prefer JS, I prefer php cuz both are way different, everyone has their opinion, but saying that php is not secure & js is a must to create a website, I do not agree ^^

Still php is server side and javascript client sided, most secure one is php , js has it's advantage of course, a mix of both is interesting, js for client interface and php for server sided things :) (didn't mention ajax)

> php is universal btw, any browser will handle it, js nop, some disable javascript & private browser may not support it AT ALL ^^
> php source is (obviously) hidden ,js is not
> can't mail with js
> can't do most of server side things with JS (&core javascript), again it is for client side things

to conclude ,js is awesome for client interface/any client sided things (& ajax), sexy/smooth designs, but PHP is always a must to start a dynamic website while JS is not, a good website will have both tho ^^

[b2k5]

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Well making a website today, sticking to static website (basic html) is kinda ... rare ^^

wrong. HTML, CSS and JavaScript combined can easily blow your mind.

I guess that 90% of new websites are dynamic, so they need SQL, and my very own opinion is that sql connection is, anyway, way easier in php cuz you need what ... server,db,login, and do the connection, kinda easy to do it ^^

you keep saying PHP and MySQL are the only thing serverside-scripting and database wise. there is a lot (and a lot better too) alternatives.

Anyway you prefer JS, I prefer php cuz both are way different, everyone has their opinion, but saying that php is not secure & js is a must to create a website, I do not agree ^^

i never said php in itsself is insecure. i said people using php tend to be lazy, resulting in insecure code.

Still php is server side and javascript client sided, most secure one is php , js has it's advantage of course, a mix of both is interesting, js for client interface and php for server sided things :) (didn't mention ajax)

> php is universal btw, any browser will handle it, js nop, some disable javascript & private browser may not support it AT ALL ^^
> php source is (obviously) hidden ,js is not
> can't mail with js
> can't do most of server side things with JS (&core javascript), again it is for client side things

to conclude ,js is awesome for client interface/any client sided things (& ajax), sexy/smooth designs, but PHP is always a must to start a dynamic website while JS is not, a good website will have both tho ^^

JavaScript is a lot more than just a browser extension. I guess none of you even bothered looking up nodejs (http://nodejs.org/). It's JavaScript on the server! Which also means every browser can handle it.

Also if your browser has problems with current JavaScript code/frameworks you should really REALLY either upgrade or go for a better browser (Google Chrome).

Again: PHP is NOT a requirement at all.

[UnstucK]

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wrong. HTML, CSS and JavaScript combined can easily blow your mind.

you keep saying PHP and MySQL are the only thing serverside-scripting and database wise. there is a lot (and a lot better too) alternatives.


i never said php in itsself is insecure. i said people using php tend to be lazy, resulting in insecure code.



JavaScript is a lot more than just a browser extension. I guess none of you even bothered looking up nodejs (http://nodejs.org/). It's JavaScript on the server! Which also means every browser can handle it.

Also if your browser has problems with current JavaScript code/frameworks you should really REALLY either upgrade or go for a better browser (Google Chrome).

Again: PHP is NOT a requirement at all.

In any domain there are a lot of alternatives, especially online, but the most reliable (functions/safety/known) is still sql & php (python,js and many many many others can be used of course, still these two are the most common, guess why ^^).

Anyway you got your point, I got mine, we won't go anywhere :(

As for the static part, I said that the websites are dynamic now, no more static content, I didn't argue about php/js ^^

SSJS is of course handled by any browser, I did mean the client sided part (JS) which can be (& is kinda often) disabled by the user.

And yea fully agree @lazy=insecure code (which is true for everything).

You can make a website with SSJS & by trashing php completly, but it depend on your web project, I do agree with you, if SSJS is enough for your project, then go for it as it is smexy smooth O_O

[lolimsoasd]

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weird battle between node.js and php.

like i said be4, PHP is not the one and only thing around. you can connect to a mysql with nodejs just as easily, no, actually even easier.

did he even say he needed a MySQL?

So you're telling that installing and configuring that js thing is simpler than using PHP?

there is a lot (and a lot better too) alternatives.

Why are they not used so often?

I think this is like linux-windows fight, but here you can do pretty much anything with both of them.